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« on: August 05, 2008, 01:27:51 PM » |
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I'm shopping around for a set of 26" disc wheels. I'm a #200 pounder and like more all-mountain type of trail ridinig. I've looked at some Mavic's that are in the pricerange and wt. range I'm looking for, specifically the Crosstrail. Anyone have any experience with these? I'd like to keep the price b/w $300-500 and the wt. below 1900gm. Any ideas?
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chunter
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 02:41:51 PM » |
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Durb,
Get the Chris King 36 hole with mavic 729 in the rear and 721 in the front. Straight gauge spokes with brass nips. Have a shop like universal cycles build them, and you'll never spin a wrench again on a wheel, unless maybe you're using a wrench to change a tire or something!
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Durb
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 09:13:22 PM » |
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I looked at those actually but they're about 2300g. I'm looking to be in the 1800-1900 range without spending a complete wad on them. DT swiss has a set called the x1800 for about $500 and around 1800gm. Has anyone heard of these?
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Riggs
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2008, 04:05:51 PM » |
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Bontrager Race Lite wheel set with DT swiss hubs. 6 hole Disc. Swiss-made hubset, asymmetric rim design and butted, stainless steel spokes 28 hole 1820g's 480.00 per wheelset
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2008, 04:18:17 PM » |
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Those DT swiss X1800 wheels may be very similar to the Bontragers I mentioned - which have 5 year warranty. A warranty may be something to consider when making a purchase....
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Durb
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2008, 04:50:01 PM » |
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You're right about the warrantee. Where did you buy your set? I've also thought about building a set on my own. PricePoint has some Hope hubs for an ok price and I was thinking of putting mavic 717 or 719 on them. The hubs are Hope Pro2, has anyone ever ridden on these?
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2008, 06:58:35 PM » |
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I was considering upgrading my stock Bontrager wheels and going for the nicer Race Lites. I wanted sealed bearings instead of cup and cone. I came across the five year warranty info on the Bontrager website. I also almost bid on a pair of Race Lites on e-bay - all this fuss within the last 24 hours. Bontrager being just a name of the manufacturer of components that usually are stock with Treks MTBs.
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2008, 09:24:03 PM » |
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I'd worry about hub warrantees over rim warrantees because rims get hammered and wear and tear is not a warrantee issue. Plus, a rim's strength lies in the skill of the wheelbuilder. Aside from unusual quality control issues from velocity (usually bomber) the only outright warranty issue I've seen on a rim was a leak in a mavic 819 ust rim. Hubs can suffer from freehub body failure, cracked flanges - bearings however are essentially a wear item and not covered.
Hope's have a nice rep. A knuckleheaded buddy of mine rides them and loves them.
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2008, 10:03:06 PM » |
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Karl you always sound like you have experience in a shop or something?
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Durb
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2008, 10:04:03 PM » |
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Thanks for all the input. If anyone else has anything be sure to let me know. I'm in the shopping phase so I have time.
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2008, 08:18:28 PM » |
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I don't know weight or individual pricing, but I just built up a bike over at Red Barn Bicycles. Chad is a good guy. Check it out: http://www.redbarnbicycles.com/
Hope Pro 2 hubs laced to EX5.1 rims with DT spokes. Super sick wheels. Feel relatively light, but they're made for whatever you can throw at them. Chad's a great guy, great customer service. I would recommend seeing what he can do for you. He does internet pricing, though he runs an LBS.
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2008, 08:48:15 PM » |
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I don't know weight or individual pricing, but I just built up a bike over at Red Barn Bicycles. Chad is a good guy. Check it out: http://www.redbarnbicycles.com/Hope Pro 2 hubs laced to EX5.1 rims with DT spokes. Super sick wheels. Feel relatively light, but they're made for whatever you can throw at them. Chad's a great guy, great customer service. I would recommend seeing what he can do for you. He does internet pricing, though he runs an LBS.
What'd you spend for that Lev? Just curious since I'm looking into building wheels at some point too.
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2008, 09:48:41 PM » |
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When it comes to wheels Keith Bontrager said it best "light, cheap, durable - pick two"; think about which 2 are the most important to you and best of luck
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2008, 07:57:08 AM » |
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When it comes to wheels Keith Bontrager said it best "light, cheap, durable - pick two"; think about which 2 are the most important to you and best of luck
Nice Cathy. I love that phrase. Seems as though it applies to just about every part on a bike.
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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2008, 09:01:31 AM » |
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When it comes to wheels Keith Bontrager said it best "light, cheap, durable - pick two"; think about which 2 are the most important to you and best of luck
My boss says that all the time. lol
I fooled him when I told him to get me a set of light cheap wheels.
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I fix Huffys and such at BCBC.
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Lev
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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2008, 09:06:00 AM » |
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What'd you spend for that Lev? Just curious since I'm looking into building wheels at some point too.
Bonkers, I built up a whole bike with those guys, so I don't know the individual pricing for a wheel build. Give 'em a call. Can't hurt to find out some alternatives. That, and I can assure you the wheel is top notch from a guy that knows what he's doin.
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2008, 01:39:14 PM » |
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What'd you spend for that Lev? Just curious since I'm looking into building wheels at some point too.
Bonkers, I built up a whole bike with those guys, so I don't know the individual pricing for a wheel build. Give 'em a call. Can't hurt to find out some alternatives. That, and I can assure you the wheel is top notch from a guy that knows what he's doin.
gotcha.. thanks Lev! yeah when I'm ready I have a few people to contact now to find out what they've got.. your guys, Karl over at REI, & my own LBS.
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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2008, 02:19:13 PM » |
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Chad @ Red Barn is a great guy - he built my bike for me too. Awesome prices and awesome service.
As for wheels, if you are in the region of 200lbs, I would strongly recommend going for 36 spokes/wheel, 3-cross, as Chris suggested.
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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2008, 07:40:22 PM » |
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Interesting, I haven't seen many 36 spoke wheels. Are they hard to come by?
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2008, 05:14:30 PM » |
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36h isn't uncommon - just not mass produced in the performance category as weight is a big seller. You'll find them in touring, dh/freeride, and 29er wheelsets. Many mtn hubs and rims are available in a 36h drilling. But then you have mavic building up stiff wheels with only 24 spokes.
Karl
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And I will remember your name and face
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With a cane to the sky like 'None shall pass.'
-Aesop Rock
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2008, 09:21:31 PM » |
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They're lighter weight too coz they've got 4 extra holes! 
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