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« on: July 29, 2008, 11:27:04 AM » |
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There is no info on the MASS website yet beyond the date. Does anyone have any additional info? I'm considering doing the Enduro...
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2008, 11:44:18 AM » |
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If you click on the BikeReg icon, it will take you to all the info you'll need. In the MASS forum page, someone has even posted a map for the sport/expert course. I did a pre-ride Sat. morning.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2008, 12:53:46 PM » |
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Thanks, followed your advice and found it. I'm used to the link being under the name of the race on mass site, not on bikereg...
ok, 9 am start only 4 hours for the enduro... short... 
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2008, 01:03:04 PM » |
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Only 4 hours! You could do that with one titanium chainstay tied behind your back.
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Dmitri
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2008, 01:07:50 PM » |
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heh, something like that. for some reason I thought it was 6 hours... was hoping for a little bit more pain. but i guess 4 will do.
i didn't see even approx. mileage. but it did say that the course will not be finalized until a week prior to the race, so how did you all pre-ride it already?!
just curious how many laps should i be shooting for in 4 hours. i guess i'll hope for 40 miles...
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2008, 01:45:42 PM » |
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I may do the Enduro there too because Sport doesn't start until 2pm! I got an appointment later so it's either beginner or enduro. I did the Enduro last year (my only Enduro ever) and really 4 hours is what it would take me to ride the sport race anyway 
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2008, 03:54:10 PM » |
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i didn't see even approx. mileage. but it did say that the course will not be finalized until a week prior to the race, so how did you all pre-ride it already?!
dz
There are a couple posts on the MASS forum page. This was in one of the posts.
http://gpsbikemaps.com/index.php?p=races/ironhill08/map.php
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2008, 08:02:13 AM » |
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Okay....I'm thinking of doing the enduro. Never done one before but don't feel like waiting around for the sport race. Do I get any points for doing it on a 36lb bike?
Dmitri, Jesse, what do you think?
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2008, 09:17:26 AM » |
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Yeah, that 2pm start for you Sport racers is late. Glad I'm racing Beginner at 9am.
Lust4 - the downhill on that 36lb bike would be fun, but the climb after would really suck the 2nd, 3rd, 4th....whatever number of times you do it over that 4 hours.
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2008, 10:02:38 AM » |
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Mmmmmmm....Well now I'm intrigued. Probably gonna try for a 3-4 hour ride at wiss in the next week to see if I handle it. Don't wanna fall apart during the race. I think Wiss is more challenging than Iron Hill? Am I right? Not real farmiliar with the course.
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2008, 10:11:13 AM » |
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Iron hill is way easier than Wiss. The biggest elevation gain in the single hill is about 140', for comparison tallest hills in Wiss like the monster and such are about 200-250' gain.
Check out this map and elevation profile
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2008, 10:24:20 AM » |
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I only managed 3 or 4 laps of the course when I did it. That day was so hot and humid that I bagged the glasses from the start as we were basically in a cloud.
There was one significant fast long down hill that was peppered with the occasional buried bolder, so you really had to keep on edge. I definitely wish I had a Nomad for that! Rest of it was your basic nice but only mildly technical single track with a few ups and downs. I've no idea what the course will be this year but I'm guessing much of the same. I certainly enjoyed it.
The faster riders were probably lapping in less than a hour. If you cross the line before the end of the 4 hours you can do another lap, so be prepared to ride 4.5 hours or even more.
I could ride all day if my butt could handle the saddle that long. I stopped at the end of each lap to fill water and grabbed a sandwich a couple hours in. We'll be out there probably with beginners and experts so there is plenty of bikers on the trials with you. It's a blend between an individual experience and a race.
Last year Neshaminy took me 3:45 hours the the SS, so knowing ahead of time that Iron Hill was 4+ hours made it a lot easier compared.
SS riders will see and probably won't be impressed unless you have a double-crown fork. However you could be the first to run a Nomad SS 
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2008, 10:41:41 AM » |
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Mmmmmmm....Well now I'm intrigued. Probably gonna try for a 3-4 hour ride at wiss in the next week to see if I handle it. Don't wanna fall apart during the race. I think Wiss is more challenging than Iron Hill? Am I right? Not real farmiliar with the course.
Wiss is definitely more challenging. It was described to me Sat., before riding, that Iron Hill is like a cross between the Neshaminy and GCC/Sewell race courses. After riding it, I'd have to agree. The Mega Dip was fun too.
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2008, 11:32:24 AM » |
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Thanks for the input.
I think what I am most concerned about for a long ride like this is the possibility of ITS (Irritable Taint Syndrome). What do you enduro guys recommend to combat ITS?
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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2008, 11:47:16 AM » |
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Bag Balm
The stuff is tenascious! I'd put it on, ride for hours, take a shower and there is still a film of it on my skin. Great for chafing and saddle sores prevention. Can be found in many local CVS, if they don't have it on the shelf, talk to the manager and they will order it. CVS carries it. It's only $7 or so a tin.
I've been using it for over a year after I realized that other chamous cremes washed away with sweat in 1 hour or so and stopped working. I heard others had used it for longer with similar good results.
Some say it can destroy chamous, but my Perl Izumi has been fine in over a year...
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2008, 11:54:24 AM » |
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dz, nice find ~ been using this long?
Quote from web site:
Helps soothe small injuries, rash chapping; massage on caked bag. Softens and moistens skin.
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2008, 12:56:14 PM » |
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Here's another quote from the site:
...They help keep the teat canal open for easier milking.
So...where do I put this?
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2008, 01:05:54 PM » |
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My problem isn't chafing, it's weight. I also keep my bars really high causing fewer endos and taking pressure off my wrists and hands, but I'm still sitting way too long and heavy, and it's just the pressure on the saddle. I can't ride on the road for more than 2 minutes before it becomes unbearable. At least with MTB you are always moving; back forth, standing, etc... But on long rides it still becomes too much.
That's one of the reasons I liked Singlespeed; you are out of the saddle twice as often. I'm trying to incorporate SS style riding with the gears, but still on long rides I'm being abused. I tried bigger and bigger saddles before I found that actually the smaller ones were more comfortable. It's where you're bones are placed, not the size of your derrière.
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2008, 01:53:32 PM » |
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Hey Tom, you make want to try this as well...
http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/ACSKIN/TAASSOS1
There is also a brand called Chamois Butt'r.
Once you use it, there is no going back...you may find that you like it so much for riding that you will put it on in the morning before work too...
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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2008, 02:29:18 PM » |
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Hey Jesse,
Have you considered trying one of the Brooks saddles?
http://www.brookssaddles.com/
They are supposed to be very supportive, although they apparently take some time to break in. Trophy in University City carries them.
Hope this helps!
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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2008, 03:24:25 PM » |
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The hubby is thinking about entering the beginner race. I'd like to come down w/ the baby, but I'm wondering if there's a place I could hang out while I'm watching. And if there are other people coming down just to watch. I've never been to a MASS race, so I'm not sure what it's like for spectators.
Any info would be great!
Thanks!
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2008, 04:21:55 PM » |
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Hey RAW, I wouldn't' say it's great for spectators but the beginner race is reasonably short and there will be so much going on you won't be bored. Enduro racers will be out, the Experts will be warming up, and tons of people will be about including spectators. It's definitely a mini bike fest.
I'd bring one of those fold out chairs and keep it at at the PMBA tent. I'd be concerned about having the baby there if it is super hot like it was last year. And of course, there will be a lot of bikes about so you really have to look out when moving around... but you should be fine.
Other courses are great for spectators. Some races have lots of laps or like at Granogue and Marysville you can walk around a bit to catch the racers come through at multiple points. If the beginner race is two laps you'll be able to see him come through too...
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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2008, 04:28:13 PM » |
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thanks for the link and yes, I have heard of them. But unless the saddle can take 30 pounds off my bodacious bod I don't think it will do much.
I am open to trying new things though too...
Also, I can't claim to be 250lb anymore, I just weighed in at 238 Actually last time I weighed about 3 months ago I was 253, so that is good drop; I hope to never see an 1/8 of a ton again.
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« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2008, 07:41:48 AM » |
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Here's another quote from the site:
...They help keep the teat canal open for easier milking.
So...where do I put this?
Tom, I saw that too and had included it on my initial post but then went back and removed it  Too funny...
There's only one link on that site that makes reference to cycling.
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