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« on: April 05, 2008, 07:47:22 PM »
Im getting my butt kicked by the climbs at Wiss.  Im walking a lot up the climbs as my bike just really isnt set up for climbing.  Is anyone else running 1x9 with a chainguide or other?  Im currently running a 34 tooth ring and a 11-34 cassette.  I think I might need a 32 ring.
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2008, 07:53:26 PM »
I've done 1X9 for a while. I believe I had a 32X11-32 at the time, I honestly don't remeber, that was before I saw the light or the light went out from my head and went to the dark side, now I do SS with 32X18 gearing on my 29er... There are only handfull of climbs that still stop me, and the ones that do stop me do that for technical reasons, not steepness... Like the new Indian Climb...

I know of few people who ride 1X9, tho. Just keep trying. Do not give up, every time you're riding, believe that you will make the climb that time. And every time you will get that little bit further, until one day you will clear those climbs.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2008, 07:55:08 PM »
Quote from: DAGMTB on April 05, 2008, 07:47:22 PM
Im getting my butt kicked by the climbs at Wiss.  Im walking a lot up the climbs as my bike just really isnt set up for climbing.  Is anyone else running 1x9 with a chainguide or other?  Im currently running a 34 tooth ring and a 11-34 cassette.  I think I might need a 32 ring.

Nah, you just have to ride more.

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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2008, 08:04:23 PM »
Quote from: pahearn on April 05, 2008, 07:55:08 PM

Nah, you just have to ride more.

-pete


likely, Im also 20 lbs heavier than I was 6 years ago so Im sure that's playing a part in it.  And the fact that Ive just always hated climbing  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2008, 08:08:45 PM »
Quote from: Dmitri on April 05, 2008, 07:53:26 PM
I know of few people who ride 1X9, tho. Just keep trying. Do not give up, every time you're riding, believe that you will make the climb that time. And every time you will get that little bit further, until one day you will clear those climbs.
Do not give up, not in your head!

dz

I suppose I really need to remember that today was only 2nd ride in 6 years.  I'll get there.
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2008, 08:10:36 PM »
Ouch... 6 years... And I feel bad and weak when I'm off the bike for more than 6 days...
You will be there sooner than you think!

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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2008, 08:15:15 AM »
Quote from: Dmitri on April 05, 2008, 08:10:36 PM
Ouch... 6 years... And I feel bad and weak when I'm off the bike for more than 6 days...
You will be there sooner than you think!

dz

I'm definitely getting there quickly, I felt much better yesterday than I did last weekend.
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2008, 11:09:09 AM »
Yea I think you just need to ride more, but, I am thinking of turning my SS 29 into a 1x9 and if I do, I would run a 32 with an 11-34.

I would say go ahead and switch to 32. Why not? Gotta set your bike for you, nobody else. You can always change it back when you get stronger if you so desire. I have a friend Dan who is a very strong rider and has a 36 on his 1x9.
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2008, 09:33:02 AM »
Though I run neither set up on my ride, I try to use a few general rules of thumb when climbing:

1.) Calm cool and collective is how I approach all the climbs. Steady cadence and don't dance around too much in the saddle
2.) Never look too far up the climb as it's a kill joy. I always look about 10'-20' up trail and quickly glance further up
3.) Always try to go further than the last time you were there, as the mental reward is much better knowing you climbed further before having to dismount

This one I learned running cross country: "Your mind will quit before your body will!!" 

I'm don't climb like a mountain goat like a lot of these other guys but keep pushing yourself and you'll quickly improve.
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2008, 09:46:14 AM »
I learned the opposite from Lance Armstrong's "It's not about the bike" book, to looke up further all the way to the top of the climb, to keep mental concentration and use it to pull you up to the summit.

I guess there are different mental techniques that work for different people.

And absolutely 200% correct that your mind will quit before your body! Very often when I forget to think about which climb I'm at or stop thinking about how hard and difficult it is, and just grind away, i find myself at the top wondering how the hell did THAT happen.  Shocked

But like every one else said, just ride more! It's fun anyway!

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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2008, 10:29:52 AM »
Yeah must be a personal preference thing, if I look up at a huge climb (especially when I'm tired), despair kicks in bigtime, I think it even makes me breathe harder. I try to look down and only glance up to check my line. I find that riding at night I climb much better because it's harder to see how much further you have to go. The other thing I do sometimes for tough climbs is I break it up into sections and tell myself, "ok just get to *that* tree", and then when I get to it I choose another tree or rock to get to. total mental thing and kinda silly but it works for me.
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2008, 11:25:11 AM »
Quote from: pahearn on April 07, 2008, 10:29:52 AM
The other thing I do sometimes for tough climbs is I break it up into sections and tell myself, "ok just get to *that* tree", and then when I get to it I choose another tree or rock to get to.

That technique is a good one!!! Used it countless times when I'm not in the mood to climb.............
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2008, 05:52:37 PM »
The other thing I do sometimes for tough climbs is I break it up into sections and tell myself, "ok just get to *that* tree", and then when I get to it I choose another tree or rock to get to. total mental thing and kinda silly but it works for me.



I use that sectioning technique a lot! I'm trying my hardest to loathe climbing, no wait, I mean loathe climbing... dammit I can't get that "L" word out... LOATHE climbing! there it is again... new context... LOVE BEER.. cool.. LOATHE climbing.. DAMMIT!  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2008, 09:29:03 AM »
I like to grab a Paulaner Heffe out of my bottle cage at the beginning of a long climb and see  if I can finish it as I approach the crest and a side benefit is the carbs will help with the next climb..Makes the down fun too. 
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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2008, 09:03:26 PM »
Quote from: mtnbkr on April 08, 2008, 09:29:03 AM
I like to grab a Paulaner Heffe out of my bottle cage at the beginning of a long climb and see  if I can finish it as I approach the crest and a side benefit is the carbs will help with the next climb..Makes the down fun too. 

that could be one of my probs.. maybe I need to try more gooder brew when climbing.. I use the standard Schlitz for climbing..I'm upgrading next year to Genny Cream Ale.  Grin
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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2008, 10:35:35 PM »


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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2008, 09:24:46 AM »
C'mon guys...............PBR!  The good ole red, white, blue.
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