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« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2008, 06:30:37 PM »
I feel so much better after that ride. Thanks knuckles
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« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2008, 07:19:12 PM »
Yea good ride fellas. I am hurting. I'm taking tomorrow off. Great trail work today as well.
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« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2008, 10:35:35 PM »
Wah, Wah, I am hurting  Cry  Just kiddin! I am sore as well. Rode 4 days this week, and trail work... Awesome week. Great ride today!
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« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2008, 10:51:32 PM »
Yeah, you guys should be sore after chopping and moving frozen dirt all day.  Shocked  I only got in on the tail end of that...
 
Good ride today for sure. http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/4853918 - my map nerd info from today.   
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« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2008, 11:09:58 PM »
2 beers after that ride and i couldn't get up....   Killer riding dudes....! 

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« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2008, 01:16:27 PM »
Quote from: Lou on January 26, 2008, 10:35:35 PM
Wah, Wah, I am hurting  Cry  Just kiddin! I am sore as well. Rode 4 days this week, and trail work... Awesome week. Great ride today!

Thanks for lettin' me join in on part of the ride and thanks for waiting for my ass too....sorry about that.  I guess I'm finally seeing what all those years of smoking really does to your lungs.  That was the main reason I had to keep stopping, I couldn't breathe (my legs did feel like cold spaghetti though, but not as bad as my shortness of breath).  It's been three and a half weeks since I stopped and hopefully in a couple more months my lungs will be a lot better and I'll be able to keep up with you guys better.

I wasn't a heavy smoker, more of a weekend smoker.  I just smoked when I drank.  After doing a little research, hopefully I won't be as winded in another month or two.

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« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2008, 01:27:09 PM »
Sounds good Rico. Smoking will kill your ability to ride fast, so we understand. You'll start to feel better soon, and we don't mind waiting one bit. Come again anytime. BTW nice ride off that log jump. That is definetely not the beginner line and you took it well. Good times.
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« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2008, 02:59:51 PM »
Did anyone ride the new log ride at the Saturday's work site?

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« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2008, 07:10:08 PM »
I think we are calling that a log sculpture, and not a log ride for stupid reasons like liability or other users sensativity. Whatever, but yes I rode it and so did Paul, Coyle and Chris B that I am aware of. Chris B was actually the first lucky rider to hit it when we were finished making it this saturday. It is real fun, but you have to slow way down before you hit it because it's about 24" high to get up on it. Here's how I do it: In one fluid motion, I get my front wheel up high by manualing (pulling up on the bars while leaning back, no pedaling) and when my front wheel gets up on the log, I simutaneously move all my weight forward while pulling up on both feet (I am clipped in...) Hold the wheel straight and steady while you roll down that baby. The drop is about 3 feet so you better pull up on the bars and let your rear end hit first...

The slowing down thing was a big selling point on this feature, since it's a blind turn and we all go pretty fast around that turn and that can make for a user conflict for sure. FYI: That gully will be closed in the future so get up on that log before it's gone!  Grin

Rico, great to finally ride with you man. Don't forget we all started where you are. If you ride frequently (and don't smoke cigarettes) you will be up to good speed in no time. You have the skills! Lungs are next. 
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« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2008, 07:53:27 PM »
Well, Lou, saying "riding log sculpture" just sound plain dirty!!!  Shocked

Sounds like a great accomplishment, everyone is happy, speeds are down in the tight spot for safety, fun factor is up for skilled, and for the rest of us, just one more spot in the park to look at with respect and think "if only i could"  Wink

Great job everyone on Saturday!

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« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2008, 08:39:47 PM »
Quote from: Lust4singletrack on January 27, 2008, 01:27:09 PM
Sounds good Rico. Smoking will kill your ability to ride fast, so we understand. You'll start to feel better soon, and we don't mind waiting one bit. Come again anytime. BTW nice ride off that log jump. That is definetely not the beginner line and you took it well. Good times.

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Rico, great to finally ride with you man. Don't forget we all started where you are. If you ride frequently (and don't smoke cigarettes) you will be up to good speed in no time. You have the skills! Lungs are next. 

Thanks guys!  Hopefully with more riding and cardio (bike and at the gym) my lungs will be better and my riding pace faster soon! 

I really loved that trail, I just got to get more comfortable with the speed and jumps.  Still a ton of fun.
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« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2008, 11:08:43 AM »
Speaking of log rides and liabilities, I'm confused about the stance that the powers-that-be have on this as there seems to be some contradiction in the park. There's a great log ride at the First Demo Site for instance, not to mention a few fun jumps that were installed/improved at the time of that trail demo project. Yet, that *mondo* log that sits near the top of the VG Inn climb that used to be ramped and at some point the ramps were removed, and now the entire log has been rotated recently (obviously with heavy equipment, and clearly to keep people from riding on it).

I don't know, my opinion is that it's *much* easier to sustain *much* worse injuries from bombing down a hill than to fall off a freaking log, it just seems extremely silly to me, and odd that the effort was made to bring machinery up the hill just to move a log very few people would/could log ride anyway. Or was there another reason for moving it? Just curious if anyone has heard any direct information about this...


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« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2008, 12:03:09 PM »
That was a great log ride. Perfect really. Wide, not to high off the ground and a great fall zone meaning nothing around to hurt you should you fall. Two exits points. One for experts (ride the skinny part all the way to the end and drop off) and the other you could just roll down. It was right on the trail which meant no reason to make a rogue trail to get to it. I even saw guys on rigid ss riding it.

Lot's of planning and sweat went into making it. Someone made a poor decision and destroyed it. Win some you lose some.
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« Reply #43 on: January 28, 2008, 01:09:00 PM »
Regarding that log above the Inn, I was riding the morning that a small work crew was there and I could be wrong, but it seemed like they moved that log solely to get their vehicles past. They had a pickup truck full of wood for that bridge below the log and were in the process of driving it down to the bridge.

Again, I could be wrong, but I got the impression that they were tasked solely with dealing with the bridge and the log movement was an unfortunate necessity.

As for the ramps, I'm guessing their mysterious removal was a "don't do this" from someone. That reminds me, way back when the logs were still there at the Kitchen's Lane section, I stopped one day to readjust one of the ramps that had fallen apart. Another rider came up and proceeded to tear down the ramp I had just repaired. He flung the wood and rocks into the woods. When I asked "um, what are you doing?" he replied that the ramps were making the logs an attractive nuisance and that someone could get hurt. I started to argue, but then just got on my bike and left (riding up and over the remaining ramps of course) before my rising blood pressure got the better of me. Later he caught up to me when I was sitting at the inn and apologized because "it seemed like I was pissed off." You could say that.
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« Reply #44 on: January 28, 2008, 01:31:14 PM »
Quote from: RepoMan on January 28, 2008, 01:09:00 PM
Regarding that log above the Inn, I was riding the morning that a small work crew was there and I could be wrong, but it seemed like they moved that log solely to get their vehicles past. They had a pickup truck full of wood for that bridge below the log and were in the process of driving it down to the bridge.

AHA! That's exactly it then, in retrospect I now remember seeing some repair work around that bridge over there. Well that's good.

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« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2008, 01:44:04 PM »
Yeah that kind of "extreme" riding is so foreign to most people that to them its obviously unsafe.  A lot of people are not willing to take any risk of injury for a momentary thrill (their loss, because to me those are the moments that make life interesting for me).  But anyways, as PMBA gains more and more exposure and momentum we'll be able to designate areas for that kind of thing and make it clearly marked and obvious that these are Obstacles and the destruction and/or disruption of them will be frowned upon the same way people frown on riders creating unsanctioned jumps at this point.  We just need to get to where we're in the clear on these things. 

I wouldn't let that stuff get the best of you though, honestly think about how many great obstacles are out there now (with more being built all the time).  Its ebb and flow, we're winning the battle though.
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« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2008, 02:16:02 PM »
well said CHris. Yea I take it all in stride. We win some and we lose some. Many people (even some riders) just don't understand that a TTF is there to challenge people. But the TTF's do need to be made correctly, like Tom said with good sight lines, fall areas, etc. Some are made difficult to get onto on purpose (Demo 1) and ramps make them too easy (to get on) and a less experienced rider could get in over their head. But that is how you learn right?!?!? Anyway, I like the difficulty of getting up on them while keeping your balance... As far as a policy, you can forget about that for a while. No one at the FPC will make a decision on that for fear of liability or losing their job. It's pretty much up to us to make these things correctly, safe and unassuming so they blend into the trails and woods. Done like that, no one should mess with them. It's funny how most people (riders, hikers, etc.) are like "wow, you can ride that? Awesome!" when they watch us hit them, so the exposure is spreading on these things, whether that's bad or good we'll have to wait and see... But we (the Board) are working on getting a "sanctioned" skills trail or park area built in the Wiss which will have all kinds of cool stuff, for all levels of riders and be progressive in design.
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« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2008, 04:29:19 PM »
Quote from: Lou on January 28, 2008, 02:16:02 PM
Some are made difficult to get onto on purpose (Demo 1) and ramps make them too easy (to get on) and a less experienced rider could get in over their head. But that is how you learn right?!?!?

Or break a couple fingers like I did when my front tire slipped and I had no exit strategy on this one.  Grin

Another positive note for those who like obstacles is that nature is pretty reliable in providing fallen trees. Some may stay for years (like Kitchens), some might be gone in a week. But whatever their lifespan, they can and do provide good times.
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« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2008, 05:08:33 PM »
Wow, you broke fingers from that fall?  It didn't look that bad, although you couldn't really see the landing of the fall.  Sorry to hear about that.
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« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2008, 07:33:56 PM »
Nice get-off! I love how your buddy chuckles when you hit the ground. My crew does the same. That's a real fun log ride. I tried it Sat and fell off also, but barely saved it. The turn half way through is tuff. Nice Cannondale. They rock! 
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« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2008, 12:24:44 AM »
Nice. Yea were riding it perfect up until that turn. It's easier than it looks. Many times as I turn onto it my rear wheel will slide off to the ground with no consiquence. Just keep your front wheel moving and look where you want to go. You must redeem yourself on that one. You almost had it.
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« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2008, 09:24:58 AM »
Quote from: RicoCPA on January 28, 2008, 05:08:33 PM
Wow, you broke fingers from that fall?

Yea, it was just one of those stupid falls where you land just right (or wrong) and end up hurting yourself. They weren't bad breaks, though, and it didn't cut the ride short or affect any future rides, so no worries.

Quote from: Lou on January 28, 2008, 07:33:56 PM
I love how your buddy chuckles when you hit the ground. My crew does the same. 

Reminds me of The Simpsons...
[Bart breaks arm]
Nelson: HA-ha.
Milhouse: I think he's really hurt!
Nelson: I said "ha-ha".

...and thanks, that bike has brought countless hours of enjoyment!

Quote from: Lust4singletrack on January 29, 2008, 12:24:44 AM
You must redeem yourself on that one.

One of these days...  Grin
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